The War Of Northern Aggresion

Subject: Re: The War Of Northern Aggresion Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:12 am

I swear Chelle, you're killing me. For Superbowl Sunday one year, I swear we had hog maws catered in. They were soooo good! Look, honeylamb, we are in California and there isn't anything anyone eats that they can't get from a Chinese restaurant. It took us a minute to catch on...

Here is a story you might enjoy...

A friend we called Skateboard was from Mississippi and one day he and my Ex went to the Chinese smorgasboard for lunch. As I said, they had all you can eat Chinese and Soul food. Well, Skateboard saw that stack of nicely golden brown pork chops on the line and piled himself a plate full. Being around 6'7" and of hearty appetite, he went to refill several times. After all, it was "all you can eat"...

After the fourth time, the owner/cook comes running out the kitchen and heads straight over to Skateboard. He leaned over him and yelled, "EAT SOME VEGETABLES, PLEASE!!!" Skateboard didn't pay him no mind at all. Just asked him if he had some "light bread" in the back so he could sop the gravy from the egg foo young.
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Subject: Re: The War Of Northern Aggresion Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:17 am

A Soul food and Chinese buffet? I'm the first to admit that I don't know a lot about Soul food, but that sounds like one strange combination!

ETA I just googled Soul Food and I still think that it would have been a strange buffet although I think I'd like the Soul Food better than the Chinese! LOL!
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Subject: Re: The War Of Northern Aggresion Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:31 am

You guys are killing me with the food! I have the dietary habits of a 4th grader and I think I'd die at a soul food and chinese buffet.

Chelle, I never got into geneology, but I've always wanted to look up some of my great-grandfather's second wife's descendants. He was Armenian and the Turks were trying to kill off all the Armenians. He was conscripted into the military by the Turks at gunpoint, and forced to help kill his own people. Those who did not were tortured and killed, and their families, towns, and churches were attacked. He was told his family had been wiped out and that his wife and children were dead. So he worked his way up to a position of trust in their military, and knew which towns and families were due to be rounded up and excecuted next, and then he kept leaking the info to those who were sneaking Armenians to safety. Then the wife of the Turkish officer above him came to him one night to tell him that they had found out that he was the leak and he needed to run. So he did. He had remarried and had more kids so he snuck his second wife and their kids out with him. He told her that he wanted to go see the graves of his first family before they fled the country. And when he got there, his first family was alive. He had two wives. So they ended up annulling the second marriage and his best friend married her and raised the kids as his own. I would love to find their family... but I don't even know the best friend's name. Shoot, I don't even know the second wife's name. But I love the story.
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Subject: Re: The War Of Northern Aggresion Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:41 am

pearly! Girl, I was laughing so hard I woke up the baby! I have tears.

I can see that happening! and I wasnt gona bring up no hog maws! LOL chitlins was my limit! LOL Pig tails maybe, Ears, ahhhh.... . But not maws! LOL I cant belive you can get the catered in!

The other day I was in walmart, and there was a couple there, you could tell they were snowbirds, just down for the lake. Well, finally the woman opened her mouth. Yep. way north.. She said "young lady, can you tell me exactly what THAT is?"

"yes ma'am, its tripe"
"is that a fish?"
well my child explained to her JUST what it was. and since she wasnt a good enough shade of green, they showed her what everything else was too! Right down to the chicken feet.

A little while later she was on the isle with pickled pigs feet. turning the jar over and over looking in it. We walked by and Matt said "what does she think it is? a science expiriement?"

Rebecca, basicly, if its a part of the cow or hog you think is too 'wrong' for dog food, down here you boil it, throw in some hot pepper and serve it with cornbread OR fry it. and serve it with gravey. or both. LOL Now its a delecacy, used to it was a neccsesity.

OMG Karen!! how neat!! and sad!! But so wonderful!!

I am sure that the way its done here (guess work accompnied by census') wouldnt work with that! I have a few that I want to find, but nothing like that. That is an amazing story!!
You should write it down, so its never lost. You never know when that sort of thing gets lost! Maybe if church rolls and tax rolls were not burned it could be found.
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Subject: Re: The War Of Northern Aggresion Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:46 am

My great grandparents came on a boat to Ellis island. Generations later we still haven't made it more than a few hours away from there.

Oh and it's not us Northern folks that talk funny....
we don't eat gross things either, lol, at least I don't.
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Subject: Re: The War Of Northern Aggresion Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:20 am

LOL Karen, at least he will never go hungry!!

I have to admit, I dont eat alot of ..... the wierder foods.

I eat normal stuff, deer, snake, frog legs, squirrel, (wont eat the brains, but will fry them for others), rabbit, dove, crawfish, catfish, perch The traditional parts of a hog, same with a cow, and chicken.

I dont eat, chitlins, feet, ears, tails, tounge, tripe, coon, armadiller, possum, incects of any kind, rodents, ducks, gator, or extreamly greesy meats. I also only eat traditional veggies. and 9 times out of 10, they better be fried. with batter.
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Subject: Re: The War Of Northern Aggresion Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:07 am

Chelle: JP Richardson, the BIG Bopper, died in a plane crash 2/3/59(The Day the Music Died) along with Richie Valens, And Buddy Holly. He is buried in Beaumont, Texas, in Forrest Lawn Cemetary.

The Chinese buffet is my best friend, all you can eat for 6.95. The soul food is another story, Dh will eat greens and Oxtails, but not me....no way. Neither of us is going near tripe, or pigs feet....
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Subject: Re: The War Of Northern Aggresion Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:37 am

This thread is very intesting and educational. Better than any history class I remember !

Karen, I particularly enjoyed reading about Berea, having been there, but not knowing about it's roots.

Jefferson Davis was born in Christian County, which is where I live. As we drove to Hopkinsville the very first time, we saw off in a distance a tall structure in the middle of now where... thought perhaps some aliens from space had landed and built it and left. It wasn't until we actually moved here that we learned the history. His 200th birthday came and went this month, and although re-enactments are held every year in June at the monument, this recent one was one of the biggest every held. They are quite interesting to watch.

And another individual, Abraham Lincoln, was also born in KY... and I actually saw the bed he was conceived in lol!

Well that's what the ranger at the park said.

An interesting note, Jefferson Davis, who at one time served under Abraham Lincoln, a captain in the army at the time (before the Civil War), became President of the Confederacy and Abraham Lincoln, President on the Union.

I love history.
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Subject: Re: The War Of Northern Aggresion Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:59 am

Soul food has its place in history along with the "northern aggression". Slaves, as you suspect were not given the best of things to sustain them. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say that most slaves weren't. If you were a house slave, then you got to do things like eat leftovers, all depending on "the kindness" of your masters.

But soul food is the art of cooking the throwaway parts from slaughtered animals mixed with the African heritage way of cooking. Along with harvesting wild roots and plants from the surrounding area, we learned to survive on things that were not too well known until the "African Importation". We're not big on bear, snakes and such, though.

The above applies to slaves who were in the better environments, so to speak. Then there were the cooks who had to do the whistle walk. Since some kitchens were detached from the houses, the slave cooks had to transport the food down this walk and into the house to serve it. The whole time they were walking, they had to whistle so the master or overseer would know that they were not eating the food.

You all are laughing at me because of my tastes in food. Well, remember, I live in California and just about anything goes. We have Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, Mexican, Thai, Black, White, Salvadorian, Italian, Cajun, Creole, Cuban and that is just in my part of town. Yesterday, after the concert we had Greek. Next weekend its barbecue and the week after it will probably Turkish. It's California, lol. For my uncle's birthday, we had crawfish and gumbo and that was at a Vietnamese restaurant where again they claimed one of them was from Louisiana. I don't know if it's true but hot dang those bugs were great. Not as generous as back home cause the sausage were on slivers instead of the sizeable portions we are used to. Like I said, if we use it we can buy it...

These is this fish market in my neighborhood called Louisiana Fish Market. It has been here for a long time but the first time I went there, I saw that the owners were Chinese. I laughed and said, "are you guys from Louisiana?" They said, "yes!" I said "Yeah, right." The fish is quite good and they do great business. In fact, most of the fish markets are owned by Chinese. Whatever we use we find that the Chinese will sell it to us.
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Subject: Re: The War Of Northern Aggresion Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:02 am

Hmmm, peacock sounds interesting but they are so beautiful it would be hard for me to eat it. However, I have no problem raising other fowls and serving them up. My son said he once dated a girl who decided they would cook dinner. When they went to the store he walked over to the chickens and said, "ewwww, I'm not cooking that!" He said he asked her if what form did she think raw chicken came? She just couldn't grab the concept.
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Subject: Re: The War Of Northern Aggresion Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:13 am

Subject: Re: The War Of Northern Aggresion Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:21 am

My grandfathers daddy was a butcher, during the depression , and before and after. The 'payment' for butcherin the meat was the less desirable parts. Hence they enjoyed the tounge, tripe, chitlins, all that.

I am kinda spoilt, I prefer the muscle. LOL

Karen, I do like Goat. LOVE goat. forgot about that. aint et no peacock. LOL I am with scott on the mayo and onions though. HATE it.

THANK YOU erin!! I wrote Jiles Perry RIchardson on the J thread, and again on the R thread. and asked if they knew who that was. Then I put Big bopper under B, Buddy Holly under H. Richie Valens, Even hinted that he didnt have a 'pretty face'. But alas there was no guessers.. LOL But I KNEW You would know too who it was Smile

Pearly, I aint so sure about Japanese, but Port Arther does have quite a few vietnamamise, They have lived there for years. I am glad that you are able to still get good downhome cookin though. Smile

I am really not into other cultures foods. Its southern, fried or I dont eat it. LOL I am just picky that way. Smile

and I dont eat ANY asian foods. Got sick the one time I did and refuse to do it again. LOL I eat jaliscio (sp) mexican food, and spagetti adn lasagna.

But as far as cooking foods, I can shoot it, hang it up, gut it, skin it, cut it up, , bring it in and fry it. its just second nature. I hate doing chicken though. damn feathers are a PITA. And ringing their necks is an art. I am just glad the kids are older. NOW they get to hold the squirrels while BR skins them. Its so boring. and he never lets me SIT and hold them. I have to stand.. LOL
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Subject: Re: The War Of Northern Aggresion Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:24 am

Thebigscott, that is hilarious. And I know you aren't kidding but I don't know what to say, lol. So, do you enjoy cooking at all or avoid it whenever possible? Are you a good cook? Why do you have this aversion? I seriously want to know. From your posts, I didn't think you and Chelle were afraid of anything!
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